Wednesday, February 15, 2017

Why Trump is President

This post and the extensive comments are a transcription of an email exchange I had with a friend.  Other readers should feel free to jump in as they feel inclined.


If you feel like diving into some deep-think analysis where this guy (Ken Wilber) uses lots of big words check this out.  First I will give you an excerpt that will either capture your attention so you will be willing to invest the few hours it takes to digest this overly-complicated way of viewing the current social issues in the US and world or you will say Nah, I would rather do my other things.  When this guy says "Green" just substitute "progressive politically correct"  and when he says "amber" think alt-right nationalistic and fundamentalist.   

Here we go..........

Here’s just one example of this slowly but widely growing realization of green’s complicity in the election of an amber ethnocentric Trump—and an indication that the self-correcting drive of evolution is indeed kicking in.  In an online article by African-American Jeremy Flood (cofounder of At the Margins), entitled “The Revolution Must Be Felt,” after emphasizing that Trump’s election was the victory of an ethnocentric current, Flood very perceptively confesses, “But in the very same vein, we [liberals] must acknowledge the way in which we refer to Trump’s base, the way we emphasize his support from the ‘non-college educated,’ the way we approach the premise of rural white America generally, relies on that very same prejudicial inference.  Our hatred for these people is at its very essence class-ism [his bold].  This cannot be stressed enough.  

Contempt for white ruralites is built into the fabric of the modern liberal lexicon.  We set them up as a vessel of every oppressive construct university liberalism has aimed to dismantle [i.e., the single great cause of all forms of oppression]—from fundamentalist religion, to sine qua non nationalism, to a general distrust in science, we’ve sculpted these people into a caricature of barbarian ignorance.  And then when we come knocking for votes, we expect them not to have noticed.  In taking these people’s votes for granted while unabashedly airing our hostility, we pushed them ever closer to the precipice, and then watched in shock as they jumped.” Exactly one of the points I’ve been making.  

Flood continues, “And if our own class-ism prevents us from caring about the emotional needs of those we derided as deplorable, we are not really progressives.”  He explains: Do you disagree with the substance of this narrative?  Are you aching to insert how [their] views are misleading, the byproduct of sexism, unfair media attention, and double standards?  Me too.  It doesn’t matter.  That was the narrative that we sold to millions of people.  And they told us what they thought of it.  We lost Michigan.  We lost Pennsylvania.  We lost Ohio.  The razed waste of Unionland.  How did we get here?  How indeed?  Says Flood, “Pundits can argue forever about whether economic or racial anxiety triggered the detonation.  But here is the bottom line: the Left failed [his bold].  We failed not because we didn’t have the facts on our side, not because our policies weren’t better for the working class, not because the redneck sods of the Trumpian horde were too racist to see reason.  The left failed because the story they were selling wasn’t strong enough to overcome these not at all new resentments [his italics].” Ressentiment, indeed.  Flood notes that “Solidarity is a story.  It’s composed of our actions and our authenticity.  It’s about collective [worldcentric] identity and collective struggle.  We are not ‘stronger together’ when half of us are ‘deplorable.’”  Amen, brother.  

“We embraced an academic, impersonal style of politics [postmodern poststructuralist], and through our tone and narrative, the Democratic party came to embody exactly the kind of elitist hierarchy it was built to overcome.”   Right on the money.  And as we’ve seen, one of the primary reasons that this comes about is that whenever we deny growth hierarchies, then automatically, unavoidably, and by default, we strengthen dominator hierarchies.  Without a countervailing current tilting and trending us toward our highest worldcentric and integral possibilities, we slide into our lowest common denominators, our egocentric and ethnocentric drives.  (And when originally worldcentric notions regress to ethnocentric displays, they take on the flavor of all amber-stage productions: an absolutistic, fundamentalist, “one-true-way” attitude, and we buy into it with a religious fervor that takes no prisoners.  We have seen this happen with science itself—as it slid into amber scientific materialism and reductionistic scientism; with feminism—as, for many, it slid into an absolutistic religion, the slightest disagreement with which was viewed as deeply demonic; we saw it with Marxism—as it slid into a de facto zealot religion for millions: while religion may or may not be the opiate of the masses, Marxism became the opiate of the intellectuals; and we’ve seen it with many political ideologies, even those coming from orange or green, when latched onto with an  unquestioning fervor and absolutistic enthusiasm, slid into their lowest ethnocentric and even egocentric displays, with disaster a short step away.)  When that happens, then this slide from growth holarchies into dominator hierarchies is deeply unavoidable—and catastrophic coming from the leading-edge itself.  No wonder evolution imploded. 

This link should take you to the whole thing if you are interested. http://integral-life-home.s3.amazonaws.com/Trump%20and%20a%20Post-Truth%20World.pdf  I think it is needlessly long, repetitive and hard to understand though the general thesis is that the progressive movement imploded because being PC made it impossible for progressives to reflect on where they were because it isn't PC to see stratas of society and consciousness which set up a cognitive dissonance that shorted out the movement and prevented it from leading.  If you can read it though it really hammers this idea home so you can fully and completely understand the schizophrenic left and why the other half of society rebelled - they had to because it was leading to a dead-end.  I ended up reading the whole and am glad I did because now I can translate some of it into easier to understand language.   

Once I read this, then it was really easy for me to see the manifestation of the progressives I know in basically embracing this idea of stupid, ignorant, racist, greedy, uneducated, sheeple on the right who fall for idiotic rhetoric over and over.  And, I realized that these so-called progressives have embraced a hatred for this group though they will not call it that because it is not PC to hate someone.  Quite the societal schizophrenia.  
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Keith's Response:
 I took the time to read the entire paper.  Since it was so long, I took notes along the way which has motivated me to put down a long reply. 

 It is both disturbing and thought provoking relying heavily on imparting self guilt to anyone who is not a Trump supporter as well as his foundational premise on "truth".  That truth for everyone has de-evolved to being contextural based.  Truth, in spite of being contextural today's truths can still be tested for mistakes in logic using the set of fallacies we discuss during the course of the campaign last year.  The Trump campaign and administration continue to violate logic for nearly all the 12 Fallacy arguments that I am aware of. 

A term I first heard from your brother and Jeff Roach was "elitist" which Wilbur seems to have lifted from the Trump supporter lexicon.  I still cannot understand why being elite is a bad thing.  It never bothered me for someone to think I was better than them when I never thought I was.  Elitism is criticizd by Wilbur for the loss or for the recent developments in evolutionary self-correction yet his entire thesis is presented using esoteric, elitist words and sentence construction throughout.  To gain a better understanding of the nature of the world we now live in I am beginning to read a book Invitation to Philosophy-Issues and Options .  Lots of sections on Logic, Ethics, Fallacies, Perceptions, and Truth- the entire gamut of philosophy in brief.  Arming up for alternative facts.

So, though I do not agree with Wilbur on "there is no truth" or that it is a best relativistic, seems too much the self blame.  Perhaps for the Democratic Party, but for the vast majority of centrist Democrats and Independents I don't think it can be applied.  And we should not accept blame in terms of what Wilbur is proposing.  Nor progressives in general.  Party affiliates yes.  For me it is a combination of factors that account for Trump's election.  The elephant in the room being simply the wrong opposition candidate being pushed through by the Democrats.  The missteps by Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Donna Brazile in putting historic precedence before what was best for the country.  Trump didn't win, the Democrats lost.  And it was a screwy election since he won the Electoral College not the popular vote which puts a pall over his legitimacy.  Keep in mind that it wasn't just that Hillary beat Trump in the popular vote by 3million votes, there were another nearly 8million cast for other than Trump or Hillary.  That means nearly 54% of the popular vote did not go to Trump.  Of 136.6million voters 73.65million did not vote Trump and with his popularity dropping by the week his ability to govern will become more and more of a problem. 

I think that Strauss and Howe in the Fourth Turning, captures in their minds, as a product of the cycles of history which they explain to my satisfaction the why's and mechanisms that apparently repeat and have repeated throughout history.   Since this is a cyclical process I would not agree with the idea it is evolutionary.  At best evolutionary and de-evolutionary, ie cyclical.  Very much a pendulum that reaches an extreme followed  by a counter reaction moving towards center and on to the other extreme.  The positive regarding Trump is he represents and extreme so though it may get worse it will reach an end point.   I think Wilbur adds to the details of what Strauss and Howe have already proposed.  However they add greater depth and dimension by characterizing the effects on each generation as they arrive in a specific Turning be it the High, Awakening, Unraveling or the Crisis and how their response shapes the successive generations as they all approach the next turning.  Theirs is an optimistic view that we pass though Crises to the next Highs and the First Turning.  It really depends upon the foundation for our values and how strong our Constitution and three branches of government can maintain balance.  After all, all can be lost.  It is an option.

it appears, and bothers me that the foundation premise for Wilbur's further arguments is what he refers to as  "there is no truth", that it is relative, which if my interpretation is correct, I reject.  Truth is not relative.  That statement alone is false.  Truth can be tested.  That is what is happening right now.  Too many people already know what "truth" is and is not.  People know how to test for fact vs alternative facts as evidenced by the inability for the Trump Administration to even get itself off the ground caught up in their own lies.  Wilbur's paper is analysis of the fallacies (though he doesn't state this) that have currently been used to gain hold by the Right with Brexit and Trump,  However, for those of us with the tools to sift fact from fallacy, truth has been and will be a continuum,  Only if yo believe there are no facts and "what really counts is we truly believe this" do you get duped. 

This is why, in spite of the fact I didn't vote for Trump, I wanted him to be the GOP candidate (as long as it couldn't be Kasich or some other reasonable Republican).  Since we were headed for "Crisis" phase anyway let's just jump in and get it over.  Given the first 3 weeks performance all is working according to plan and the  more the outrageous the better. 

I take even more umbrage with the description by Wilber of Boomers as not teaching truth, but self-esteem.  This his "truth", not mine nor most Boomers, but again he establishes this as fact then expands upon it committing the same fallacy that he criticizes.  The Boomer Generation is the "question authority" generation who were still taught critical thinking,(not emphasized today) keeping in mind the No Child Left Behind and Common Core BS were brought to you by the Orange administrations.  (An aside doing away with the Department of Education at this point would not be a bad thing, letting the states handle it with Fed Funds only to ensure equivalency in buildings.)  But Wilbur's "no truth" premise is a false foundation up which much of the rest of his argument does not hold up and is more a criticism of the Right than the Left rather than the fault of the Left. 

Much of this is regional.  A function of the Coasts with generally better education systems vs the Right in the fly-over states, more the belief oriented states with belief based education.  The irony is these same Trump supporters who suffer from inadequate education needed to get the jobs and the standard of living the coasts enjoy are the very ones who seem to think the government can fix it, the same government their anti-government movement wishes to diminish.  The 70% of whites with only a high school or lower education who voted for Trump don't see they are a victim of their own device.  They are "the rednecked, oafish, uneducated, gigantic instigator of oppression of all minorities" who above all hate minorities who have become more successful through their own hard work and who conflate the criminal elements of the minorities to bring down all members of an ethnic group or race.  And what of this term "elite", again is this anyone who has become more successful than themselves.  Appears to be the case.  A case of self hate transposed over resentment.

Wilbur seems to suffer from some of his own Green guilt complex which I do not share.  I, unlike the serious hopeful Hillary voter, after 8 years of obstructionism by Republicans wanted to bring this festering sore of an Alt-Right Movement (now that it has been defined as such) to the fore so those supporters, out of ignorance, could see that it's without substance.  To let the disappointment settle in with the reality that there really wasn't anything in it for them.  Green's warned the Oranges, but they need to see for themselves.  Not a problem for me.  Again, it was the wrong major party candidate that lost, Trump did not win.  If it had been Biden or if Obama could have run a third term, just by his popularity numbers we can see either one would have won.  So the underlying theme by Wilbur of gross miss steps by the Greens is overstated.  There is a great deal of self flagellation and attempt to transfer that sense of guilt to those he calls greens.  Going back to the Fourth Turning, I would equate Wilbur's Integral Age to the First Turning, a High as they term it.  An upbeat era of strengthening institutions and weakening individualism.  We are now in the Fourth Turning, it is clear, a Crisis era where secular upheaval exists and the values regime propels the replacement of the old civic order with a new one.  This is why needed a Trump, to bring this to a head, what has been fomenting on the Right for 8 years.  A kind of Anti-Christ who though bordering on evil is needed to bring us to our senses and across this abyss of questionable values.  The future is playing out as it should with Trump only 3 weeks in already floundering on a number of fronts. 

Net-net though I questioned and challenge Wilbur on some of his arguments and his being a bit heavy on the "psycho analysis" and his assignment that the green's fundamental belief is "there is no truth" I think this a good read.  I would also challenge his guilt laden arguments he lays on greens.  Then he needs that to go forward with his thesis.  Simply spelled out, the crisis we are entering into is a Constitutional Crisis and I am betting on the Constitution to prevail.  the alternative will be extreme civil insurrection and perhaps civil war.  It could happen. 

Wilbur speaks of the future, some Pollyannaish green's "reaching out to understand, include in dialogue, care, even love to the deplorables".  Maybe because I come from the 60s and still harbor a great deal of resentment for the authority during those times, I will have none of that.  would rather see it taken to the streets if necessary.  No peace, love incense from my part.  Too much venom on the Orange/Red, Alt-Right whatever for peace/love.   

Per the Fourth Turning Wilbur would be out of synch from an historical perspective.  The Awakening he referred to has already passed.  It started in 1984 and ended in the mid-2000's (at least that was the end point predicted in 1997,  We are actually at the peak of the Crisis stage (again as predicted in 1997) and it feels like it.  Finally Wilbur states, "Humankind has never had a leading edge like this at any previous point in history" which is completely untrue.  Every Crisis stage presents a great existential threat and the chance everything could be lost.  The year preceding the Civil War was the leading edge like none in history whose effects have rippled even to the present day.  Very long lasting effects.

Don't worry.  I have confidence things will work out and even more so with the pushback by the Federal Courts and the total transparent ineptness of Trump and his entire staff from Kelly Conway, Spicer, Flynn, and De Vos.  The scariest guy so far is this Goebbels like reincarnation, Steven Miller.  That guy is dangerous.  However, they too will fall.   

12 comments:

Sojka's Call said...

Ok - great place to start a discussion and clear up misconceptions. First on page 69 Wilber addresses that there are universal truths and that those need to be used to keep amber and orange under control and honest. The idea that "my truth" is "the truth" and there are no universal truths, is the belief Wilber says many Greens/progressives hold. And man have I seen that! It ties in with the elitist label of many greens. Those greens see injustices that someone at red/orange cannot comprehend. What Wilber was trying to show there are certain behaviors red and orange can be held accountable for and some you cannot. So, for instance, a red/orange is never going to understand that someone can be so sensitive to micro-aggression in speech because say you called someone an Indian instead of Native American - that kind of PC stuff is the attitude that elected Trump because there was a real backlash against PC enforcement by green. On the other hand there are universal truths that red/orange must be held accountable like basic human rights.

The greens being labeled elitist are the ones who 1) shove the PC crap down everyone's throats 2) will stop all economic progress to save the red frogs in one lake 3) seem to delight in denigrating those stuck at amber and Red, 4) belittle those levels belief in organized religion 5) are quick to call all types of behavior racist even when it is not, and I think you get the picture. So while those green folks can see the injustices and stupidity of base beliefs their approach in dealing with those people has been downright mean - I see this all the time. The liberals/progressives will turn let's say something like a evolution denier (believes literal Bible translation that Earth is 5K years old) into someone labeled stupid, uneducated, racist, greedy, sheeple, etc instead of just recognizing that that person lacks the ability to perceive that information properly.

Keith said...

Hmmm. I fit the description accept the PC insistence and I am fine with that including the elitist label whatever it means.

Keith said...

So o in the last paragraph what is the problem. It is all about education. If someone wants to remain in the dark ages there is not much I can do about it and any further discussion with that person is a non starter. I guess this is where these great divisions begin. We tend to cluster with those who we find have most in common. So it is about the numbers. As long as we can promote good education opportunity we as greens will ultimately prevail.

Actually I don't know if Wilbur or yourself are worried about this administration or perhaps the lag time in the fast changing atmosphere takes a bit of time to catch up. I was worried on inauguration day, but with all the latest developments I am heartened by the reactions from the streets and the implosion going on within the White House inner circle capping it all off with the slow growth of disaffected GOP Senators. It is now spectator sport. What I am not doing however is to antagonize the few Trump supporters I know. I will measure their level of sustained loyalty by their diminishing mention of Trump. First is was wearing the red hat, then mention of cherry picked executive orders that seemed unoffensive and now the discussion is just about the local weather. It will eventually become blatantly obvious that they were duped and I will choose to save them from any further embarrassment by bringing up the topic. Trump supporter need to quietly figure it out for themselves.

As always I am glad we are on the Left coast far away from Washington. I am also surprised at how much Arizona is against the wall and how much the Senators McCain and Flake have spoken out against Trump. There is room for optimism. We live in interesting times.

Sojka's Call said...

Trump worries me only to the extent he could get lots of people killed. Beyond that, I think he is a course correction and in the end (if we survive him), he provides some kind of societal inoculation against going that way again. And, maybe enough of the PC people will realize they have to get off the throats of those who are acting innocently and actually be able to tell the difference between someone acting innocently at their own level vs someone dangerous who is going to physically harm you or yours who does need to be constrained. For instance, leave the Fundamental Christians alone but the mafia guys go to jail. Both ethnocentrists but operating at vastly different levels of the damage they are doing.

Like your stance about not engaging the Trumpers and our experience with people on the right, we have learned that there is no amount of data, analysis, reasoning, logic, or discussion that we can engage them in that changes their mind. Once we stripped away false beliefs, desported bad data, showed their logic fallacies, etc they still didn't change their minds - they just became very emotional (angry, fearful, sad, disgusted) and further withdrew into their ethno/ego-centric selves. They literally cannot fathom the world-view you and I take completely for granted. We are not stretching ourselves to see over the wall. We are already standing on the other side. Those guys are on the other side of the wall from us and can hear us and though we keep throwing them a periscope and keep describing the landscape over here, they cannot conceive of this place.

Maybe not the best analogy but the only one I have right now.

The only other area of this that I still am not sure of where you are coming from is the belief in societal evolution. Are you saying you don't believe our society can evolve and that there is a median we always come back to and the media point is unchanging? Reference your comment "I think that Strauss and Howe in the Fourth Turning, captures in their minds, as a product of the cycles of history which they explain to my satisfaction the why's and mechanisms that apparently repeat and have repeated throughout history. Since this is a cyclical process I would not agree with the idea it is evolutionary. At best evolutionary and de-evolutionary, ie cyclical."

And finally, for now, very astute observation about the waves from our civil war still affecting our society today. As Brin has stated many times, what would have happened if the abolitionists had not pushed things to a breaking a point? Slavery would have gone away and it might have taken a little longer but there would not be the negative consequences of hundreds of thousands of lives lost, the subjugation of the south, and the economic destruction of the south and their complete way of life in such a short time. All other western societies found ways to end slavery without tearing themselves in half. I guess I am bringing this up because it ties back to the Elitist Green meme - so many of them are so sure of themselves they are willing to sacrifice everything to prevent, for instance here in Mt Shasta, a fucking water bottling plant. Or, in other places, stopping logging of forests that are nothing but giant tree plantations anyways. Don't get me wrong, we need to leave the few old-growth places left alone because scientists still don't understand truly how these work, but, some of this shit people just need to let it go. I say, let them cut the forests that were logged out 50 years ago and are just going to burn anyways if we don't cut the trees. But, leave the old-growth forest alone and study how they really work. In most cases, I think humans can have their cake and eat it too.

Keith said...

We will survive because there are loyal legacy staff people in the White House who are making sure the truth is getting out to the press much to the consternation of the Trump camp. Everything is moving so fast and the leaks are so pervasive that Congress will take action before he can do too much international

One thing that struck me regarding Wilbur's piece was how his description of Trump supporter belief-truth based system so well describe our friends on the right.

guess that is what I am saying. What we see today was the same set of circumstances as in the 30s preceding WWII. We even had people like Charles Lindberg take a very public stand on resisting immigration of Jews fleeing Germany, as well as supporting Hitler's Reich development. It was also a time of white supremacy stemming from the Eugenics Movement from the 1920s. And Strauss and Howe take things back to Roman times but really the cycle during the 1400s. I think society can and does evolve but as part of a cycle of going backwards before going forwards again. The parallels of pre-war Germany now seem so out of time and a giant step backwards. I take solace in seeing progress forward advances us more than we regress as that pendulum swings, but it does appear we are destined to revisit a recent period of in-enlightenment with each Crisis before starting a new High. We don't completely regress back to our most primitive societal thinking.

Keith said...

Brin is a bit of Monday morning quarterbacking here. Clearly the abolitionist did not have the ability to forecast the future and felt a sense of immediacy in remedying a situation that was counter to the statement in the Declaration of Independence, a realignment of our values. After all the abolition movement began in the early 1830s and entire generation before the Civil War actually took place. After nearly 30 years they saw no light at the end of the tunnel and since the war was a struggle for human liberties vs economic survival the South was not going to relinquish their lifestyle unless they could replace an agricultural and cotton based economy with something else. Just as we are locked in some sort of destiny today for reasons outlined in Strauss and Howe the Civil War was inevitable and unavoidable. If people are still unenlightened today on this topic, as they are, then there was no way it was going to change without force. All other western societies found ways to end slavery without tearing themselves in half. Britain took a stand at the beginning of Victoria's reign in the 1840's when the abolition movement was in full flower. But they did not rely as heavily on slaver to sustain their economy. But then again they had India which later became almost as bad as slavery in the South the subjugation of which existed up to the time of Gandhi.

Keith said...

Regarding societal evolution. I guess I am not too sure I understand the concept as well as you do. Evolving to what? What are the characteristics that differ or can be compared to human evolution which is improvement in adaptation environmentally exhibited by higher intellectual capacity. is it the ability to maximize our intellectual capacity in ways that benefit mankind's survival as a whole? Which brings us to the Reds vs the Greens. Why does it seem that the greens have progressed towards maximizing their intellectual capacity more than Reds -Oranges? Or is that just a contextural elitist bias. We are all born with this intellectual capacity that makes us superior to the animal kingdom intellectually. So why do some people become greener than others? Is it an organic brain formation, environment ? Clearly, some parts of the country are more Red than others, but you can find greens amongst them and vice-versa for greens. Some points to ponder.

Sojka's Call said...

I am going to do a second blog post because my response is too long for comments.

Wayne Wilson said...

A lot of comments above to read and digest. I did not read Ken Wilber's "deep-think" analysis, as I have already read several dozen analyses of the Trump phenomenon, and how he got elected. I do enjoy reading comments about Trump, and I have my own conclusions as to how he got elected. I appreciate having a blog like this one to give my opinions.

1. Sanders would have been the better candidate, with strong support from high energy millennials and a committed base of tens of millions that would have worked hard to turn out the vote for him if he had won the nomination. Sanders would have won by 6-10 million votes. Clinton supporters were blind to Clinton's weaknesses and Sanders' strengths.

2. Clinton underestimated the rage of rural and rust belt state whites who saw their manufacturing jobs disappear. Sanders understood this rage. She should have focused her campaign primarily on how she would help unemployed and underemployed Americans get jobs, education, and training, and how she sympathized with their fears. Rural and Rust Belt Whites tuned out Clinton's campaign, which focused on Trump's sociopathy/fascism/racism/misogyny,and immigrant bashing. She lost these people by the beginning of summer 2016 as they were listening and believing Trump's message that he would bring back the lost jobs and "Make America Great Again".

3. Trump ran a brilliant campaign, appealing to the large segment of Americans that are anti-semites, Muslim haters, racists, white nationalists, populists, Christian religious fundamentalists, and Obama haters. He got 95% of those voters. The United States is a center right country, which many "progressives" are in denial about, and about 30-40% of voters really are racists, Muslim haters, religious fundamentalists, etc. I encountered many of these people on Washington Post comment sections over the last 4 years. Many of them are people who read the stuff on Breitbart and dozens of other racist and alt-right websites. They never recognized Obama as a legitimate president, and public polling shows that significant numbers of Republicans really do believe that Obama is a "Marxist, Kenyan, Muslim". Many Trump supporters saw Clinton as a continuation of Obama.

4. Putin was successful in helping Trump and hurting Clinton with hacking Podesta's emails and having them pop up daily for 6 weeks by Wikileaks. Also, Russians and their supporters/collaborators in England and other countries worked with dozens of people, many of them Americans associated with alt right websites (or freelancers looking to make $10,000/month with Facebook clicks on their Clinton fake news posts), who mounted massive social media campaigns with hundreds of fake news stories about Clinton. You all know about the social media campaign reposted by General Michael Flynn and his son about Clinton and Podesta being at the center of a child trafficking ring in the Comet Pizzeria in Washington DC, and how a Trump supporter believed the stories and drove for 3 hours from his home in NC to the Pizzeria with guns and shot up the place before being arrested. The Comet Pizzeria story was just one of hundreds spread by social media to literally tens of millions of Trump supporters, who believed many of the fake news stories as truth, driving them to the polls to vote for Trump.

Wayne Wilson said...

5. FBI director Comey cost Clinton many millions of votes in the early summer of 2016 by violating FBI and Justice department protocols by explaining the reasons in detail as to why there were insufficient grounds to prosecute her for any crimes. Normally when a prosecutor declines to bring charges, no explanation is given. This gave Trump and Republicans daily ammunition to go after Clinton. He repeated this mistake 11 days before the election, stating falsely that there may have been classified information that Clinton provided on Anthony Weiner's laptop. This drove Trump supporters and Republicans crazy, giving them more impetus to show up at the polls to vote for Trump, and probably cost Clinton a few more million votes.

6. Several million supporters of Sanders voted for Trump, or voted for 3rd party candidates, or didn't vote at all. This was a critical loss for Clinton in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, in which she lost the electoral college by a combined 79,000 votes.

Sojka's Call said...

Wayne - I agree with your list of the concrete boots-on-the-ground reasons Trump won and the actions that cost Clinton. And, definitely Bernie got the shaft from Dem Party stalwarts who thought Clinton would easily win.

My analysis and the reason I read wilber's 80 page essay was that Wilber is the only guy looking at the different groups/stratas of the US population and trying to parse exactly the levels of psychological development they are at in order to understand their basic instinctual drivers. Understanding those drivers give us tools to predict how they will react to different messages. And, we also get to understand why to one group what looks perfectly reasonable and moral to another group looks like insanity and morally abhorrent.



Wayne Wilson said...

Michael: "Understanding those drivers give us tools to predict how they will react to different messages. And, we also get to understand why to one group what looks perfectly reasonable and moral to another group looks like insanity and morally abhorrent."

It would be valuable to understand the cognitive processes of literally dozens of major populations, but I wonder how levels of psychological development are determined. I would be interested in people who are underemployed, unemployed, or long term unemployed, or those seeing no job future that will lead to a middle class lifestyle. There are many things to look at, such as differences between white/black/Hispanic/Asian unemployed workers with no HS Diploma, HS Diploma, AA degree, some vocational training, extensive vocational training, age factors and reemployment prospects. Workers downsized due to automation or globalization.

But I agree that all these groups need to be reached and helped to get work and or training. Also in political campaigns, they will tune out if they are not receptive to messages. It appears that many unhappy Americans, and many people in the UK, Germany, France, Spain, and Italy are listening to messengers that are promising them jobs and giving them slogans such as "Only I can make America great again, trust me".